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Ukraine, that country whose democratic process America spent millions of dollars into trying to pervert in order to have the current pro-western ’liberal’ government elected, has now shown just how liberal and modern it is by banning the possession of any kind of pornography.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/07/ukraine_bans_filth/

The heroic modernising President Viktor Yushchenko and his ‘glamarous’ feminist side-kick Yuliya Tymoshenko, are perhaps giving President Bush and the American neo-cons who had them installed a belated thankyou present.

No doubt Viktor’s current 5% approval rating will get a shot in the arm with this news.  Perhaps this isn’t as silly as it sounds.  Perhaps there is such a perverted ascetic and masochistic side of man that the fact that 70+% of Ukrainian men will now likely be turned into criminals and sex offenders will only improve his popularity.

And when is a men’s rights campaigner not a men’s rights campaigner?  When he rejoices in a feminist state turning the majority of its male citizens into subhuman nonces whose liberty it now has absolute power over.

Just in the process of re-reading the classic anti-feminist treatise ‘No More Sex War’ by Neil Lyndon, first published in 1992.

It really is even better than I had remembered it to be.  Lyndon applies what has to be described as a Marxian analysis of second wave feminism, seeing the rapid change in the position of women in the 60’s and 70’s to be nothing more than a response to the demands of capitalism and the requirements of a modern labour market.  The introduction of technologies such as the contraceptive pill and in utero abortion were introduced in order to facilitate the fulfilling of these economic needs, themselves of course having unforeseen social and cultural effects.

According to Lyndon, feminism quickly claimed the credit for the social changes that were happening  when in fact the second wave was itself no less a product of the deterministic tide - a new dominant capitalist ideology fulfilling the intellectual and emotional needs of men and women who had suddenly been forced to live in ways that no other generation prior ever had, and of course, ironically justifying itself through appeals to (pseudo) Marxist theory.

What is so important about Lyndon’s work is that it completely pulls the rug from under the sanctified feet of the second wave feminists.  Their feminism was not a rational, purposeful struggle that successfully achieved equality for women but rather simply a blind, emotional and extremely vicious response to events that were under the control of nobody (and certainly not the likes of Germaine Greer).  The similarities with Lionel Tiger’s theory of second wave feminism as a largely subconscious response to the contraceptive pill are absolutely striking.

I reccommend every anti-feminist read this classic work - if you can get hold of it that is.  Disgracefully, it has been out of print for many years now.  I’ll do my bit to keep its brilliantly revolutionary message alive by putting up a permanent page here devoted to reviews and interpretations together with a selection of key passages. 

Many people know that the publication of No More Sex War had a terrible cost upon both Neil Lyndon’s career as a successful journalist and also his personal life.  This, despite the fact that the book reads as a model of how to conduct an attack on feminism whilst pointedly making clear you are not attacking women.  In fact, one of the text’s many powerful and oft repeated messages is that feminists have shamefully betrayed not only the hopes and ideals of an entire generation, but above all the mass of ordinary working women, still largely bound by economic servitude.

(Male) scientists have apparently grown sperm cells in a lab.  According to the BBC, this is a good enough reason to once again tell half the population just how subhuman and auschwitz material we really are.  I wonder how many times in a million years the Beeb would ever use the phrase ‘a world where women are not needed’, no matter how many artificial wombs or eggs that (male) scientists produce.  Or, for that matter, the phrase ‘a world where Jews/Blacks/Homosexuals are no longer needed’..

Complaining to the BBC takes less than a minute.  http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/complaints_stage1.shtml

The public grief surrounding Jackson’s death is nothing short of nauseating. 

Now dont get me wrong here.  I believe, like many others, that he was brilliant, iconic, and yet a deeply flawed (to say the least) tragic figure.  But  let’s be honest - the manboy was undoubtedly a paedophile, and he was a paedophile in the classic, true sense of the word (not the hijacked, prostituted definition abused by feminists and the religious right). 

He spent most of his adult life sharing his bed with pre-pubescent children.  And we all know what Joe Public would normally like to give to a man caught sleeping with little boys. And it certainly isn’t a state funeral.

I expect Oprah to have him declared the patron saint of paedos any day now…

Meanwhile, a fellow MRA YouTuber has raised a different issue of double standards involved in our treatment of those who sleep with the underaged. As usual Rexx123456 has produced an excellent and well-researched video.  Females undoubtedly are treated more leniently than men who are caught doing the same thing.  No anti-feminist could dispute that shocking and disgraceful fact.

The only problem I have is that my fellow MRAs do seem to have a fixation with trying to prove that as many women as men break age of consent laws.   That is, laws that were set in the first place by feminist pressure groups in the late 19th century (before the women’s movement had even got round to campaigning seriously for the right to vote).

This seems to me to be one more example of allowing feminists to dictate to us what is important.  We shouldn’t allow those who oppress us to set the terms of the debate.  Let’s talk  about the statistical fact that far more women than men physically and emotionally abuse children, indeed murder children.  Let’s focus on the fact that 20 million unborn children are butchered each year and that feminists care so much about the rights of the vulnerable that they see this carnage as a woman’s inalienable ’right’, one not even up for debate, in fact perhaps the chief defining cause of second wave feminism itself. 

If we do need to bring up the subject of paedophilia, lets talk about how feminists are so cold-blooded and evil that they are willing to exploit and cheapen the horrible reality of child sex abuse by ridiculously inflating its definition for no other reason than to limit the sexual competition to themselves.

Readers might also like to take a look at an interesting article by Carol Sarler that appeared in the Spectator recently. It intelligently asks why, as a society, we are so fixated on sexual crimes to the exclusion of nearly all others.

My YouTube buddy Vastedda has shared with me a brilliant but heartbreaking video revealing the effects of a draconian new Western FemiWhore imposed edict that outlaws ALL sex work in Cambodia.

Thousands of young women have been thrown out of work and reduced to poverty (and their families) overnight. The fact that these ‘helpless and exploited women’ have enough political nous to organise themselves into a union in a last desperate attempt to defend their choice of livelihood simply cuts no ice with the evil, selfish feministas. 

Readers may like to ponder how happy Western feminists are to interfere in the affairs of Third World countries when it comes to anything that sexually threatens them.  They might also like to consider where that leaves the usual lazy blanket excuse for the feminist silence over Islam - cultural relativism, colonial guilt, and the refusal to criticise brown people.  

I say that excuse is bullshit.

The disturbing reality is, feminists see Asian women selling themselves too cheaply to Western men as a far greater form of ‘oppression’ (i.e a sexual threat to themselves) than any amount of young women being stoned to death by patriarchal mullahs in Iran or Afghanistan. 

Western feminism is a sexual trade union for unattractive Western women.

Pat Condell is one of the most controversial (and most subscribed to) people on YouTube. He is a proud atheist who has become famous for his articulate and humorous tirades against religion - especially Islam (usually it is the soft target of Christianity that takes the flak from prominent atheists, which shows how uniquely brave and honest this guy is).

A few months ago I made a YouTube video challenging Pat Condell to answer the question ‘where are the feminists?’.. I have also sent him this challenge through e-mails and via comments on his videos. Now, I have no idea if he has watched my video or even read any of my challenges.  It is enough to learn that other MRAs have clearly been asking him the same question, for today Pat finally rose to the challenge and answered that question…and answered it big time!

He is as clueless as to the feminist silence as are you and me, and clearly, just as infuriated by it.

What pleases me most about this brutal attack on feminists by a secular rationalist (that will likely be watched by hundreds of thousands of people) is that he doesn’t simply dismiss their appalling silence as left-wing cultural relativism. Cheeringly, it appears that Pat Condell has the intellectual integrity to go along with his incredible bravery to admit that there might possibly be something far more deeper and disturbing than simple lazy, selfish, relativism going on here.

The video is concerned primarily with France’s decision to ban the burka. Just past the half-way mark Pat raises the feminist issue, and specifically mentions the e-mails (from I assume MRAs like me) that he has received over it.

Finally, I decided to get this one out of the way with.  My interpretation of the history of feminism as an irrational, blind force motivated primarily by the sexual insecurities of its middle-aged and unattractive female members and driven along by unforeseen social and technological changes.  Outlined in 5 and a 1/2 minutes..

Although there are apparently no muslims in our movement, our ranks are generously sprinkled with Christian MRAs.  I am not simply talking about MRAs who happen to be Christians, but those whose Christianity is an essential feature of their opposition to modern feminism.  Here, I’m going to briefly explore two questions that spring to mind from this fact.  Is Christian anti-feminism different from secular anti-feminism?  And if so, do the two strands have sufficiant goals in common to make fighting under a common banner worthwhile?

Patriarchy

Christian anti-feminists tend to see the ‘patrarchy’ that existed for most of history as an essentially good thing. 

Those of us who are aetheists, on the other hand, tend to dispute the notion of patriarchy altogether, and point to the disadvantages suffered by men in the past, disadvantages that were often justified by a religious morality or social system.

Differences between men and women

Christian MRAs usually hold (as the bible teaches) that men and women are fundamentally different.  Secular MRAs also often hold (as an intelligent understanding of Darwinism implies) that men and women are likely to be fundamentally different.  However, there are many MRAs who insist that there are no differences between men and women and that men’s rights is purely about treating men and women equally.  Other secular MRAs (such as myself) might concur that this is a noble goal but believing that there are fundamental differences, doubt that this might ever be achievable in reality.

Sexual Morality

Christian MRAs also tend to see the free sexual market as an evil thing.  They would like to see an end to, or at least much tighter regulation of, porn, prostitution, and pre-marital sex.  Furthermore, they often identify the creation of the free sexual market as being essential to the feminist rise to power.

Secular MRAs tend to take a more liberal view of sexual matters.  In fact, the clear (to us) feminist opposition to such things as porn and prostitution is what inspires many to  resent feminism.  Or, more widely, secular MRAs see the harm done to both men, young boys and society in the feminist portrayal of the male gender as rapists, paedophiles, predators etc alongside the near sanctification of the female as the perpetual innocent sexual victim.

It isn’t for me to tell secular members of the Men’s Movement what position to take on matters of sex.  I have seen some aetheist MRAs, such as ArgusEyes describe themselves as conservatives and appear to take quite a conservative view of sexual morality.  For me, this appears to wrongly identify conservatism with sexual conservatism.  I have often described myself as a conservative, but for me, this means seeing through the bullshit faith of the left regarding the power of the state to mould human beings into it’s own image.  ‘Secular Conservatism’, if you like, accepts that human beings are animals with fundamental natures and instincts - that men and women are likely to be psychologically different in important ways.  A secular conservative and MRA would not necessarily see ‘liberal’ sexual morality as inherently bad.  Stripped from it’s religious connotations, and in an age of freely available contraception, sex should ideally be a physical pleasure, even  a leisure pursuit.  In the real world, of course, unchecked sexual libertarianism will inevitably have many negative effects.  In the free sexual market of today, we see this with single mothers, climbing abortion rates, broken families, lonely black females filling the pages of the personals columns, white teenage boys comitting suicide because they cannot ‘measure up’.  However, for the secular conservative, re-imposing a religious sexual morality should not be the answer.  Talking about sex rationally and without prejudice or political correctness, would  be the beginning of a solution.

Can secular and Christian anti-feminists work together?

Both strands of the men’s rights movement can and, indeed, clearly do work together successfully in exposing feminist lies and feminist injustices imposed upon men.  May this continue.  Realistically, however, the final vision of society that both camps want is probably too far apart to ever be reconcilable.  This being said, as we all know only too well, we are still so far removed from our respective goals, we ought to concentrate on taking aim at feminists, and save taking aim at each other for another day.

Yet to finish this post, the following simply must be stated. The belief of Christian MRAs that feminists promote porn, prostitution and general ‘harlotry’ (in their own words) is simply absurd.  Furthermore, criminilizing the majority of the male population and locking tens of thousands more men up as subhuman animals for clicking a mouse has NOTHING to do with men’s rights.  Telling teenage boys that they will burn in hell for eternity for masturbating has NOTHING to do with men’s rights.  Furthermore, feeding the flames of pedohysteria and the demonization of men (and the erosion of the basis of every civilised society) because you want absolute control over your teenage daughter’s virginity has NOTHING to do with men’s rights… OR conservatism.

What do you call a female who is 17, beautiful, feminine, has a Mensa level IQ, and who hates feminists?

Perfect.

I feel it is my duty to mankind to somehow figure out a way to clone this girl.. but I guess I’ll have to leave that to Japanese boffins and content myself with simply showing you the new sweetheart of the anti-feminist movement.

Credit must go to my good YouTube friend Vastedda for sharing that video with me. 

Meanwhile, I recieved another message from a YouTuber recently giving his intelligent thoughts on how feminism and Islam both, in opposite ways, devalue the sexual currency of hot females.

Islam reduces the hot woman’s currency by making it INvisible.
Secular Feminism reduces the hot woman’s currency by making it TOO visible…

To anyone who still doesn’t know, our community on YouTube is really where it is happening with regards to the Men’s Movement and Anti-feminism at the moment.  If you have a YouTube account then subscribe to some of the many great MRA channels there such as the brilliant pinegrove33 (chapin’s inferno), ArgusEyes, and Thugtic1an.

If you haven’t a YouTube account, it takes 5 minutes to create one.

My own channel is of course the infamous schopenbecq. 

Excellent men’s rights video illustrating some of the fundamental concerns that motivate us to fight this good fight.